VooDoo

[watershield]

Something I came across in my surfing:
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Wanga Dolls can bring you love, money, success, revenge--anything you desire! Select the doll or dolls that fit your specific need, then experience the wonders that only a Wanga may bring!

Wanga Dolls summon the forces of the night, supernatural forces that are beyond man's comprehension. Each Wanga represents a powerful spirit that could work in behalf of the person who possesses it. Possess the Wanga and let its extraordinary powers work for you!
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Empowered dolls, forces of the night, etc
What's your impression?

[Goth]

I don't believe that the dolls themselves are empowered, but I can understand someone who is not a practitioner of magick, believing that they are. Placebo magick, in other words.

The power of these dolls is in the belief that they are going to work.

We practioners of magick know that the real power of magick comes from within ourselves, not the 'tools' used.

[watershield]

Placebo Magic....I seem to remember that from some place.... ;D

[vermindaspirit]

I have to agree with Goth, if you belive the dolls will work, then they probably will~

However i think i would rather make the dolls myself, that way i know the intention that went into the weaving~

[Jen]

Who do voo doo?
You do.
Who do?

I've never heard of Wanga dolls and I fail to see how they can work at all.
Dolls don't hold any power. A person needs to project their will and energy for a desired outcome to be achieved, maybe the dolls act as a tool but time and energy would still need to be spent for any magic to be performed. Somehow I get the impression that these dolls are not aimed at people who can actually perform magic so therefore they would not work and are just another money making scheme.

[Ebony]

I know absolutey nothing about voodoo so have never heard of this.

I guess it could be similar to using a poppet for a spell But poppets only symbolize the person the spell is being cast on. Its a way to focus the energy by the spell weaver, just as any other tool is used. In my opinion a "poppet spell" can be done just as well without the doll.

[kiowa]

I have to agree with Hedgewitch, this is another money making scheme. Where I grew up though, everyone was terrified of voodoo so as a placebo they would probably work really well! Hi again, WS!! I wonder though, could you additionally empower them with a thought form? That would really send something spicy into the mix!! If you sent out something embodied with a thought form to carry out your intent, the person who buys the wanga doll additionally used their "belief" or "intent" to further that purpose.. would you have a powerful tool?

[pixiedust]

Sorry. I find the word Wanga too funny to post anything of real value at this point. LOL!

[watershield]

Maybe Wanga is what the vendor is doing the buyer...?

No I don't think there is anything to these except profit.

Hey Kiowa...that's an interesting thought.
When in the past I've created a thought form, I was creating a shell (or astral body) that was taken over by a willing spirit. The thought form lacks the physical body. And that is an important part to be able to function/interact in this realm of existance, with other physical forms.
The physical body has the brain, sort of a central processing unit that transalates the electrical signals or stimuli between the three bodies.

To place a T form within an inanimate object...
The astral and spiritual bodies would be disconnected with this realm and could not interact, but might be able to react.
As they would not be able to understand what was happening, I suggest the most common reaction would be defensive. And as such any "vib" we would sense from this type of object would be "negative". For most, this would mean it would be wise to stay away from it.
On the other hand, if you are aware of the potential and can connect with the two spirits and give them "perception", you could well gain some significant influence.

[kiowa]

lol Pixiedust, I didn't spot that!!

Watershield, could you attach it to, rather than "place it within" the inanimate object? Would that make a difference?

[watershield]

Actually, I don't know
I've never attempted to do either
Will need to contemplate the potential on this one

By attempting it however, you would be attempting to bind the free will of another spirit in some manor to an inanimate object.
I'm not sure that I would want to try that one.

[kiowa]

Hi Watershield, I don't like the sound of that either. But what if the thought form was purely created from your (one's) own energy, and had nothing to do with another spirit, energy you could direct or disperse at will? It's my view that some elementals/thought forms are not actually spirits. As such they would have no free will, but be directed by the will of their "creator". What do you think?

[watershield]

One can form energy into anything that one could imagine and send it forth just as in any spell working.

However for the energy to have the ability to think and react to stimuli, it's needs to have a spirit of it's own

[kiowa]

Actually they develop the ability, so I've read, and that's why they are often confused with spirits. And can become difficult to control. How would you direct the energy of an elemental with a spirit of it's own?

[watershield]

The way I understand it is that when you use energy, there is no concept of good or bad.
You are creating a shell and placing a willing spirit into that shell.
Your intent has basically cast the roll that the entity will take on.

As long as we are able to stay connected to that entity we can maintain the roll cast for it. However in this world today, there are so many distractions around us, the ability to stay connected is at risk the longer we attempt it.

As our connection weakens, the will of the spirit can take over. If it does gain control, it has the choice to discontinue the entity or continue it for it's own goals.