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Post by watershield on Jan 21, 2007 5:26:11 GMT 1
Actually, des moved from Prince George down to Victoria in April Either he has lost the link or lost interest
Should he find his way back, he's most welcome to join back into the discussions
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Post by Desladon on Jan 25, 2007 9:15:19 GMT 1
Wow some response to my post since last i logged on here. First off thanx guys for defending me to caine but really no need at all since i believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. As for giving you a demonstration of my power Caine gotta admit I have yet to be able to hurl chairs across the room with my mind. Really what it all comes down to is a matter of faith, I have no solid proof that these events happened, and further more about arch-angels not being reincarnated it is really up for debate considering there are numerous individuals in the pagan community who believe that they are reincarnated beings from other dimensional plains of existence from elemental beings to angels to even aliens. Really what I think your response to my post was some hope to get information out of me to reaffirm some of your own faith which you do not yet have fully sorted out (hey none of us do!) and to really get some evidence, in future though if you are curious there are probably better ways to ask. Pixie about your question on god i would have to say it isnt quite so black and white as that, but I will try to explain so please bear with me.
In my opinion, before mankind existed as a physical representation there were forces of good and evil which existed in more pure form, there were naturally leading forces to either side who manifested themselves in for lack of better terms God and Lucifer but it is not to say that either of these were the source of their influences or that "God" was the creator. Rather i believe that all life is simply a manifestation of the force of life which is really a collective conciousness of souls which is older than the confines of a heaven hell paradigm or demons and angels, i believe that these things were simply the representation of the forces of good and evil within our tiny corner of the universe.
Anyways basically these things existed because they must say that they were a spiritual evolutionary precusor to man, just as how Apes evolved to man physically so did demons and angels evolve to man spiritually. So all this is well and good before man existed and on a dimensional plain most likely parrellel to our own and very much connected there existed demons and angels and for the most part although not entirely they were evil and good, not to say that demons did not experience good things occassionaly say love and happiness and angels did not experience bad say hate or anger, in fact if left to their own devices they would not but through their interaction they came to embody both sides, angels with negative tendencies and demons with positive, why does this happen? Because it must, why did fish crawl out of the ocean? Because they had to. Life knew it would happen before it happened but it wasnt that it was really planned you see its just the way it is. And so it was that through their interaction that those who became to represent neutrality and inner conflict in its purest forms became man. That is how I am here and that is how other demons and angels walk among us, why we all walk here in fact, not all of us are reincarnated angels or demons, but without those angels and demons opening the planet earth to sentient life by being banished to this plain in which a parrallel world just "happened" to exist there would be no man. Of course meanwhile physically for millions of years the life on the planet had been just "happening" to evolve in such a way that a suitable host species would exist for the souls of these demons and angels. Really i dont know if i did that explanation justice but thats roughly my belief on the matter.
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Post by christa on Jan 28, 2007 2:32:19 GMT 1
I may be new myself, but it seems to me that Caine has to learn a little plain old respect. I'm glad to know that this is a place where I can say MY opinions and not be criticized for it. Desladon, it may not mean much coming from a newcomer like myself, but welcome.
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Post by sobek on Jan 28, 2007 6:46:57 GMT 1
in my oppinion it means just as much as it would coming from an older member. i value oppinions highly so dont hold back.
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Post by pixiedust on Jan 29, 2007 17:14:40 GMT 1
Wow some response to my post since last i logged on here. First off thanx guys for defending me to caine but really no need at all since i believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. As for giving you a demonstration of my power Caine gotta admit I have yet to be able to hurl chairs across the room with my mind. Really what it all comes down to is a matter of faith, I have no solid proof that these events happened, and further more about arch-angels not being reincarnated it is really up for debate considering there are numerous individuals in the pagan community who believe that they are reincarnated beings from other dimensional plains of existence from elemental beings to angels to even aliens. Really what I think your response to my post was some hope to get information out of me to reaffirm some of your own faith which you do not yet have fully sorted out (hey none of us do!) and to really get some evidence, in future though if you are curious there are probably better ways to ask. Pixie about your question on god i would have to say it isnt quite so black and white as that, but I will try to explain so please bear with me. In my opinion, before mankind existed as a physical representation there were forces of good and evil which existed in more pure form, there were naturally leading forces to either side who manifested themselves in for lack of better terms God and Lucifer but it is not to say that either of these were the source of their influences or that "God" was the creator. Rather i believe that all life is simply a manifestation of the force of life which is really a collective conciousness of souls which is older than the confines of a heaven hell paradigm or demons and angels, i believe that these things were simply the representation of the forces of good and evil within our tiny corner of the universe. Anyways basically these things existed because they must say that they were a spiritual evolutionary precusor to man, just as how Apes evolved to man physically so did demons and angels evolve to man spiritually. So all this is well and good before man existed and on a dimensional plain most likely parrellel to our own and very much connected there existed demons and angels and for the most part although not entirely they were evil and good, not to say that demons did not experience good things occassionaly say love and happiness and angels did not experience bad say hate or anger, in fact if left to their own devices they would not but through their interaction they came to embody both sides, angels with negative tendencies and demons with positive, why does this happen? Because it must, why did fish crawl out of the ocean? Because they had to. Life knew it would happen before it happened but it wasnt that it was really planned you see its just the way it is. And so it was that through their interaction that those who became to represent neutrality and inner conflict in its purest forms became man. That is how I am here and that is how other demons and angels walk among us, why we all walk here in fact, not all of us are reincarnated angels or demons, but without those angels and demons opening the planet earth to sentient life by being banished to this plain in which a parrallel world just "happened" to exist there would be no man. Of course meanwhile physically for millions of years the life on the planet had been just "happening" to evolve in such a way that a suitable host species would exist for the souls of these demons and angels. Really i dont know if i did that explanation justice but thats roughly my belief on the matter. Slightly confusing but I think I've got the general gist ;D Thanks dude!
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