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Post by theyd on Mar 25, 2012 19:55:36 GMT 1
can you tell me if i am understanding this correctly ... (remember no dumb questions so i had read ;D) the wheel is the wheel of life it has eight spokes each spoke is a sabbath four is of the main Sabbaths (yule, beltane) and four of the lesser(?) Sabbaths the sabbaths are yule imbolc ostara beltane summer solstice lammas habon samnin what i am trying to figure out is what are the sabbaths and when and where are they on the wheel.
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Post by theyd on Mar 25, 2012 19:57:19 GMT 1
i hit the wrong key and got sorry please no disrespect from here ... this is embarassing and i don't know how to delete it. again sorry
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Post by marisol on Mar 25, 2012 20:46:10 GMT 1
theyd google wiccan wheel of the year, there are pictures, enlarge one. There is everything right in front of you. Let me know what you find.
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Post by watershield on Mar 25, 2012 21:46:25 GMT 1
Here's a link that might help you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_the_YearThe thing about the these holidays is there taken from a combiunation of places. Some are Celtic in origin, some Saxon and several are new inventions since the 1970's. The dates indicated are just general indications of when those holidays might start, but really it depends where you are in the world. IE: no sense celibrating the arrival of spring in April if your in Australia. You see, those that are Celtic days would have been celibrated during that seasonal change IN THE BRITISH ISLES. Personally, I pay no attention to the wheel as it's not relivent for me. I mark the seasons as they actually change here in Canada.
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Post by theyd on Mar 25, 2012 23:33:27 GMT 1
mariso: i did Google and got some really nice pictures, and lots of differant names of holiday's and such. but will continue to look on the net. thank you
agree watershield it does depend on where one lives as to the changes..
thank you both
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Post by khara on Mar 27, 2012 17:00:49 GMT 1
The wheel is not limited to Wicca, I mean Gerald had to steal it from somewhere right? I'M JOKING.... sort of.... But not really. Hey, if the christians can steal our holidays and festivals.... You will find that almost every culture has some breakdown of the year based on agricultural cycles, sun cycles, moon cycles and tides. The Native Americans as well as the Greeks both have a Medicine Wheel based on this. The Germans, the Celtic groups (Ireland, Scotland, Wales) have Wheels. The Norse, now their wheel is way cool. Theirs is not only based on holidays and agri schedules in this realm, they have other realms their wheel is attached too. If you look at all of them, a few things come thru. They all have 4 main festivals or holidays. Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. Planting, cultivating, harvest and the long winter. I've often wondered if that could not be used as a point to base the all gods are one god ideal on as these cultures are spread out across the globe, yet they have so many things in common in this aspect.
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Post by watershield on Mar 27, 2012 19:44:24 GMT 1
If we consider that the first "faith" was Animism. A belief that all things shared one life. Shamanism was born out of Animism with the assignment of aspects of "god" to specific seasons, things, etc. All other views of faith or religion came from that based on social / political needs.
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