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Post by wolfsbane00010 on Mar 25, 2009 1:42:21 GMT 1
Ok, I was looking around the endless expanse we call the information superhighway (a.k.a. The Internet) And found a section on Poppet Magic.
I am wondering what people think about it? And another thing...
I tried it out. I made a poppet and gave it a name and used a stopping gossip spell on it, except expanded it a bit to stop every insult and put down he shot at my friends. Then after 3 days I thought he learned his lesson and disspelled the doll (stopping the spell) and guess what? exactly 27 seconds later (counted for kicks and giggles) and he started swearing and insulting all of us again with wild abandon!!!!
Now my friend who knows about the whole thing is asking me to make another doll to try and stop it, what do I do?
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Post by watershield on Mar 25, 2009 15:36:42 GMT 1
Make the doll! If he already knows you did it once and what's you to try it again, what's the harm.
Just keep in mind that he now views it as a challenge, so the chances of it working will be limited
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Post by kolohe on Mar 25, 2009 20:08:05 GMT 1
I think it's a different friend who knew about it? Don't make the doll. It's not really about the doll, back him off with a look- with your will. You can do this, might not be so dramatic, but good practice opportunity, some acquaintance swear and run his mouth just annoying, but if some jerk hassles you out somewhere more of a safety situation you can't run off and make a doll. Use the amount of intervention appropriate for the situation.
Also, ethical issue in trying to keep control of someone. I think "karma" or rule of 3 simplistic- not really, but can be effects from keeping your energy entwined with someone. Maybe doll guy suffers some misfortune, or you do, or you start to take on some qualities you didn't like in doll guy, or someone more in postion of power starts mistreating you- may or may not have much to do with your spell, is this worth wondering about? Best long term defense work on your internal state- stay relaxed, calm and positive a little beyond low grade cr**, sound like the fluffly optimism?- secretly selfish too as people will enjoy your general vibration want to please you and things tend to go like they should with right mindset. Ir ony of magical practice as you start to get stronger andrealize you have some control, you realize you really don't need to.
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Post by Ebony on Mar 28, 2009 6:44:26 GMT 1
So, some people get really freaked out when others start talking about poppets and using them in magick. For some reason some people see poppets as an extension of the human persona, and think poppets fall under the "black magic" catgegory, like the doll captures the persons soul or something. I think that comes from television and VooDoo dolls? Actually, poppets are just an extension of your spell, the same as casting a circle, using a candle, or using your atheme. However, special rules govern the use of poppets and candles. Like with a candle, once that candle has been used in a spell you don't use it again for something else, and you properly dispose of, usually by letting it burn completely away, or burying it. Same with a poppet. You use it for one thing and one thing only, and properly dispose of it, usually by burying or burning it. If you just disband it, in essence, you destroy your spell. It comes down to how strong you feel your magick is, and how you want to use your skills in energy weaving. Kolohe brings up a good point in that if you have problems with someone you can't always run and make a poppet but you can learn to protect yourself. Practice until it's second nature to build up your personal shields to keep evil away from you. But for specific spells, if poppets work for you, then use them. But keep in mind that the spell will break if you disband or destroy the poppet without proper ceremony. If you don't have a place to bury used poppets, you could find your closet filled with shoe boxes of the little things  Here's something I have done that sort of incorporates a bit of both poppets and candle magick. Make an effigy on paper (draw a stick figure or use a picture or likeness of your person the spell is being cast on/for) and bind it to a candle. Then as the candle burns, the effigy will also burn away with the candle. Be careful though, as sometimes the flame can get quite high depending on the size of paper you use and how covered (or not) the paper is with wax before it burns. You can also, rather than tie the effigy to the candle, burn it in your cauldron at a specific part of your ceremony. You can control the flames a bit better that way. |
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Post by Jen on Mar 28, 2009 15:38:20 GMT 1
I have a strange affiliation with Poppets. They please me.
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Post by mollimizz on Mar 29, 2009 22:28:16 GMT 1
I walked up to the dollar tree the other day to get
a blue candle for Mom's surgery(good thing I did!),
but I saw in the toy section(I was looking at the stuffies)
there's something there called "voodoo doll" !
There were things written oin them
(didn't have reading glasses with me) but there was a
cloth heart attached to a ribbon, I guess you place the
heart over the words you want to happen ?
If I could have seen what they said I might have gotten one...
Anyone else seen these ?
Gentle Light
Mollimizz
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Post by PaganOne on Apr 5, 2009 16:24:50 GMT 1
I have a strange affiliation with Poppets. They please me. I don't know why but poppets unnerve me. At work one time I was jokingly having a battle with a friend who accused me of practicing witchcraft in my basement. I told her I did witchcraft out in the open and would prove it to her. I took a voodoo doll (from New Orleans) and propped it up to took at her. I put a pin in it's ear and one in its stomach. She went home sick with an ear ache and upset stomach. WTF?! |
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Post by mollimizz on Apr 5, 2009 22:23:27 GMT 1
PaganOne,
You wicked little witch you...LOL !
The power of suggestion is strong isn't it ?
She's the one who technically brought it on herself,
with help from you 
I'll bet she didn't mess with you anymore ?
The ones I saw at the Dollar store's kid's toy section
probably said, "love me", "be my friend"...etc
But I can see how poppets work with intent "drilled"
into them !
Gentle Rainbow Light
Mollimizz
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Post by PaganOne on Nov 21, 2009 19:59:06 GMT 1
Dorothy Morrison's Utterly Wicked talks about poppets. All you need is a plastic or cloth doll, some of these can be found rather cheaply at arts and crafts stores so you can stock up. Dorothy suggests.... Stuff the head with cotton balls to confuse thoughts. Stuff the belly and abdomen with vinegar soaked cotton to cause stomach upset. Nails and thorns work well too! You might want to break an arm or a leg on your doll or stab it with a knife or other sharp object. Write the name of the person on the doll (a leg works well) or tape a picture of their face over the doll's face so the powers-that-be know who the intended target is. You could blindfold the doll so the person can't see you. Out of sight, out of mind! The trick is to think about what you want to happen when you stuff the doll or inflict it with wounds. The idea is that when the person thinks of you that what you have inflicted upon them will occur. Hopefully they will give up before they do themselves in. But then I figure the outcome is their choice. ;D Sit the poppet on your altar for a few days or in a place where you can see it so that your intent can be kept flowing. You will know when the time is right to dispose of the doll. I like the idea of burning, as if I am going to go so far as to use a poppet on someone, I hope to rid myself of them forever. You really gotta read Dorothy's book. |
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