Astral Attacks

[shrine]

OMG!

Reading this, I'm too scared to ever try Astral Projection ever again!!

Having flippin Shades there munching on my energy!!!

I'm glad I read this before i attempted Projection again (i could never entirely get my self out of my physical form, my feet would stay where they were).

[wizardofah]

Ok I was not going to respond to this but I hate to see people so vulnerable. I guess I am that dark wizard you were talking about. I've never been called a shade before so thank you.
I won't go through this whole thing but I will try to hit the high points.

First Hedge sorry to blow your bubble but psychic attack is possible and very real. You say you have to acknowledge the attack,,no you don't.' I can attack anyone at any time, don't give a darn if you know about it or not. You are missing basic concepts of magi k teaching. Those being "as above so below" what I manifest in the astral it will manifest here. No it will not be immediate but it will happen. Next,,, a physical attack is not possible, wrong. It can be done, but it takes a lot of energy. On the other hand it can be done. Again "as above so below" if it works on the astral to here what makes you think that the reverse is not true. Now another concept I want you all to be aware of is "No time no space". Whether you are standing in front of me or across the world the only limitation is what you set in your mind. This concept takes some getting used to. I can touch you I can hug you or I can hurt you. It DOES NOT MATTER where you are.

Protection: your best and only protection are shields; and be very careful how you set them up because I have made it my business to find weaknesses. Someone said something about not using mirrors because it could hurt that person. Welcome to the real world. Mirrors are about the best shields to use and with enough energy can make you invisible to attack.

Karma: I will not go into this very deeply but, I make choices. At the end of this I will tell all of you who I am and why this is important to me. It is not Karma, it is however your wording. Again if you say and believe in the law of 3 you have set limits on yourself. When you are ready to go past that. Then you can move mountains!

Vampires: whoever gave a real good explanation with just a couple of additions. Vamps do feed off of energy and many attacks are unintentional. Most people don't know they are vampires and would argue that they are doing anything wrong. Well here comes the shields again. By turning the outside to a mirror you reflect back they're intentions back to them and they stop the attack instantly. Also goth had the friend that is the vamp. What you didn't do and need to do is cut the cords with your friend. She is still feeding off you but it is a trickle, not enough for you to even notice. And you think I need your permission to drain you,,,guess again. A fully trained vamp can drain you and many others without you even knowing about it. As is happening to many of you right now. Do you need shields all the time, no you have friends, guides, helpers or whatever you call them. Ask them to watch your back and they will.

Now the last part now that I have scared the hell out of most of you.
I am a psychic warrior. My call in this lifetime is to protect the innocent. If you are a pedophile I am looking for you. If you are an abuser I am looking for you. If you are a perverted sob that would hurt someone for the fun of it I am looking for you. And yes I stay very busy. On the other hand if you are a noephite I will do everything in my power to help you. Karma yes I make my choices but if taking a man out that would rape a child is asked for and needed I don't hesitate. I would hope others wouldn't either.

[watershield]

Over all, a good reply. I think you understand what I was attempting to say.
However, a shade is not a person who dwells on this plane of existance. A shade is purly an astral being that may enter this plane but always returns to the astral.
You refer to yourself as a dark wizard, lol, I am the dark mage.

[Jen]

You misunderstood me wizard. I didn't really explain myself very well and went off on a tangent a bit.
I know astral attack is very real but what I meant to say was that it will only affect you if you don't do anything about it. A quick and simple banishment does the trick but of course, you have to acknowledge the attack to perform the banishment.

[Avaros]

You do not always have to be aware of something however, to have it affect you, if you are leaving yourself vulnerable too it, or leaving yourself open too it, yes, it's more then likely something is going to start leeching your energy, like Watershield said, this is why it is extremely important to remain grounded, as well as maintain a shield. If you are doing these two things, generally you won't have any sort of trouble with this, however, if you are trying to do these, and haven't grounded yourself, nor have your properly shielded yourself, you'd be surprised at the amount of things you can accidentally draw in.

And yes, I agree with you Watershield, very, very few people maintain a shield at all times, infact I do not know of anyone who maintains one unless they are performing magic, or attempting Astral Travel, and I know even more whom do not even bother with this while they are performing either.

There is also a fine line between white and black magic, as there is gray magic, which is white magic where the intent, or reasoning behind it has gone wrong, and inevitably you draw things to yourself by doing this, this is another reason why it is important to both shield, and ground yourself whenever possible.

[pilgrim]

i would recomend dion fortunes "psychic self defence" its a bit dated but to most occultists etc the best book on the subject