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Post by muladzh on Dec 1, 2008 0:46:12 GMT 1
This is a fascinating subject - Being newbie only in internet presence, I am learning a great deal. I have to admit to searching all over for Fluffy websites.. Interesting people.
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Post by lisa on Dec 2, 2008 17:15:59 GMT 1
Since when do you have to start killing people to be a nuisance? The guy selling heroin is a nuisance, and so is the one who verbally and emotionally abuses his wife. You dont have to kill or PHYSICALLY hurt someone to be a problem. Well then, by all means be infuriated by the pagan selling heroine in the name of Isis...or the person beating the crap out of someone because Pan told him to do it... However...you started this out being upset merely at the stupid people...not the dangerous ones...I was merely pointing out a 16 year old who claims he can shapeshift is not something to get all twisted about...if a bunch of pagans started doing dangerous things in the name of their beliefs...that would be something to waste your energy about...that would be something that would be inherently dangerous to the pagan communitie's reputation...but getting all twisted about a bunch of white lies as you called them seemed...well, a waste of your energy. I was just playing devils advocate...sometimes I get all twisted about something and then see another perspective and am able to re-evauate and let it go...and now, you have seen a more than a few oppinions that differ from your own... But, since this seems to be very important to you...rant on... And just to clarify...I'm not saying these people aren't annoying...it is you choice of words that I take issue with. An epidemic is something that would require immediate action and attention...seems to me the less attention given to these "fluffies" the better off things would be... Oh...and something that definitely separates us from the Christians...throwing out quoted lines of scripture or in this case redes out of context...to try and prove your point...words are subjective...I'm sorry, and mean no disrespect, but I personally associate intolerance with a fool just as much as stupidity and/or arrogance. |
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Post by createholly on Jan 7, 2010 5:14:48 GMT 1
It kind of makes me sad and gives me this weird feeling in my gut. I don't hate them or wish they would disappear I wish someone would take them aside and explain that they are wrong. Its so easy now to find information, a lot of it is wrong, but who can police these sort of things? Anyone outside of the Pagan community doesn't have too much experience with them. I got a lot of my initial information from Silver Ravenwolf, but I also began to branch out because I felt I was missing a lot. Instead of telling these people to go out and get some therapy instead of trying to deal with their problems by making things up, we despise them and make them feel unwelcome. I think some of them are lost on what to do, and some of them...are not very bright. I feel fear because its hard enough to get the right info, and find the right community and find who you are in the craft without these people bringing their own slice of delusion into the mix. I just think soon...no one will really know what's going on. I don't want the ways to die out, but I also know things have to change and grow if they're going to continue. I just don't want them to grow...towards fluffy.
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Post by celticmagick on Feb 1, 2012 19:31:33 GMT 1
I once met what one might call a fluffy when in my teenage years. I was talking on a message board when they attacked me saying that I was not a real witch and knew nothing about it because my color correspondences did not match there own therefore was wrong. Quite annoying really.
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Post by khara on Feb 14, 2012 17:20:22 GMT 1
I've come across a lot of fluffies over the years. While I would love to say that I've matured and they don't bother me these days, that would be a lie.
I don't care what anyone wants to believe. Heck you can say the great pumpkin is your deity, I don't care. My issues arise when these people put themselves in a position to teach or influence others who have no idea what is and what is not true.
The quote about a little knowledge being a dangerous thing I find to be true when following the path. Along with the whole road to hell being paved with good intentions.
While I am not Wiccan, I fully support and agree with the idea of the year and a day. There is a very good reason why no one should go off half cocked when it comes to this path. We talk about curse and hexes, but we have been living this life for years. You get a n00b and they are young and they haven't paid their (for want of a better term) "magical dues" and they curse someone and it backfires badly. Or, and this can happen to even an experienced worker, they try to bind someone and end up binding them to themselves.
The dangers are there. Stupidity has never been a good excuse for screwing something up, just like ignorance of the law is no excuse.
I try to avoid the fluffies and those websites that encourage them under the umbrella of the Goddess loves everyone and all paths (even made up ones that are ridiculous) are valid and welcome. The Goddess does love all, but I doubt she has any more patience for stupidity and silliness than I do.
I'm not going to search them out, but when they come to me, I will put them in their place. If they don't get a good wakeup call early on they can end up hurting themselves or someone else.
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Post by watershield on Feb 14, 2012 17:53:48 GMT 1
The one flaw with the year + a day idea is that it assumes the student will be learning from a qualified knowledgable teacher. It does not take into account the potential for some two week wonder with some library books starting a coven made up of kids from school attempting to come across as a qualified HP.
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Post by khara on Feb 14, 2012 18:13:47 GMT 1
The one flaw with the year + a day idea is that it assumes the student will be learning from a qualified knowledgable teacher. It does not take into account the potential for some two week wonder with some library books starting a coven made up of kids from school attempting to come across as a qualified HP. Well that was rather a given ;D |
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Post by oldman on Nov 9, 2015 21:31:52 GMT 1
Long before there were "Fluffy Bunnies" we had intolerance in the pagan communities. The "witch wars" of the 60s and 70s were about the definitions of that which was too sacred to print in a book on the east coast and whether Wicca should be classified as a church or not on the west coast. Pagans have never been open or accepting of differences even within their own paths and certainly not of other paths or "off-shoots" of their own. Even though it is an historical fact that religious practices were shared and modified in the early history of pre-Christian religions.
The myths and practices of Sumer were widely dispersed throughout Mesopotamia and even into the Egyptian, Greek and Roman religious practices. They all shared deities with very similar attributes and the pantheons were strikingly similar.
Neo-paganism is a lot less tolerant than is commonly believed by Pagans that are new to the life. I know because I lived through those wars and the hate is still there keeping groups from coming together even for pagan pride celebrations.
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